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Jesus I love You, But Not Your Word

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This is what I said to Jesus.life

Many times I said it. Even though I had always read the Bible, even from a young child. I read it a lot. I memorized verses even. I believed it was truth, I believed it was the Word of God. And over and over God used His Word to teach me and to speak to me.

But I didn’t love it.

I certainly didn’t desire to read it or look forward to reading it. I did it because I knew it was the “right” thing to do.

Then one day I watched that old “Jesus” movie…. In it Jesus picks up the scroll of the Old Testament in the Temple preparing to read from it. But before he reads Isaiah 61 he kisses the scroll. That simple act convicted me.

I blurted to the Lord in almost desperation: “Jesus, I love You, but I don’t love Your Word. Not like that.”

I knew I loved Jesus. I loved Him with my whole heart and soul and mind and strength. I could see that “in the volume of the book it is written of Him”, I knew that Jesus is the Word made flesh. And it didn’t make sense to me. If He really is the Word made into human flesh, and if I really loved Him, how could I not love His Word as well?

Well of course there was nothing I could do about it. I couldn’t make myself love it nor desire it.

Actually, there was one thing I could do – and that was to be honest with Him about it.

So I was. I just kept telling the Lord what was in my heart.

“Lord I love You but I don’t love Your Word.”

Then gradually my prayers began to change : “Lord, give me a love for your Word. Make it real to me.”

It took some time, but one day I realized that I could honestly say that I now loved His Word.  And I still do. I LOVE it. I desire to read it. I can’t wait to find more treasures in it. I can’t wait to discover my Jesus concealed in the pages of the Old Testament and find His beauty and grace revealed in the New Testament. I love reading the apostles revelations and teachings in the epistles. I often cry as I read it now, I am so blessed with this wonderful, old Book. There is nothing like it.

So what’s the difference now? The Book certainly hasn’t changed.

No, the difference is that now the Holy Spirit is bringing life where before there was death.

This principle is true not only with reading the Word of God, but with everything in the Christian life – doctrine, preaching, church meetings, worship, fellowship, prayer, giving to the poor… it can all be dry and lifeless. It may all be cold, dead duty, ritual or tradition with no life in it if it’s done in the power of the flesh.

Without the Spirit of life breathing His life into something, anything, there is in fact, a ministration of death. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth, so when He is in something – whether it is prayer, reading the Word, preaching- there is reality there. There is Life. It rings true to us, it ministers life to us and we are changed by it.

A long, eloquent prayer may bring death…. If there’s no anointing of the Spirit.

A sermon with all the right doctrine may minister death to the hearers…. If it’s not infused with the life of the Spirit.

The ministry of the Holy Spirit is not an added bonus or extra in the life of a believer – His ministry of Life is essential. As Watchman Nee said “We either minister life or death. There’s nothing in between.”

Let us pray for the reality of the life of the Holy Spirit in every part of our lives, worship and ministries.

God bless you!

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Author: GraceandTruth

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16 thoughts on “Jesus I love You, But Not Your Word

  1. Praise God for your life! His word is a life changing. Expect more on His promises and continue loving His words. 🙂 God bless you.

  2. Thanks I love the honesty. God is looking for men and women who hunger to know him. This post reminds me that’s it’s a blessing to want to love God and His Word.

  3. Wonderful teaching, because I meet way too many Christians who read the Bible to learn instead of to weep and work for Jesus according to its wisdom.
    Peace

  4. We do have the impression you are mixing two persons, one an eternal Spirit, Who can not be seen by man or they would die, and the other a human being who was seen by many (who did not fall death) and was tempted more than once, before he gave his life and really died, Jeshua, better known as Jesus Christ, the son of God.

    • Hi there, thank you for your comment. Yeshua is the Word made flesh, see John 1. He is God in human flesh, fully man , yet fully God. No He is not the Father- He is the Son. “For in Him dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily…” Colossians 2:9.
      He is divine, He is sinless and therefore death couldn’t hold Him and He was resurrected on the third day by the power of the Holy Spirit. God bless

      • The apostle John is talking about the Word, the Speaking of God. God made a promise in the garden of Eden to take care of a solution against the sin of Adam and Eve. The second Adam, Jeshua, was the man who would bring salvation to the world. By his birth he became a reality and fulfilment of God His speaking. His word as scuh became flesh. Not God became flesh. God Himself said about Jeshua that he was His beloved son, not Him, Jehovah Himself.
        Jesus could be tempted (God can not be tempted) and could sin, but did not. He was a man who proved that man could sty truthful and faithful to the Law of God.
        What use would it be if God would have come to the earth, not telling the truth, like saying he could not do things without himself, or would not know things (Jesus even did not know when he would come back), proving He did not tell the truth in the Old Testament, because there He said people could not see HIm or would die, though many people saw Jesus and did not fall death. Jesus also said the Father is greater than him and that he could not do anything without his heavenly Father to whom he also would mediate for us and would hand over the Kingdom of God. How can a person mediate between himself? How can a person hand over something to himself? And what would be the use of God faking His death, because God can not die?

      • God is a tri-une Being – that is, He is One God, but is distinct in the three Persons of the Godhead. There is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. They are co-existent, co-eternal – one in equality, unity and love, yet they are distinct Persons.

        God the Father did not come to earth, God the Son did. Yeshua left the glories of heaven to take on human flesh and to die in our place. He willingly submitted Himself to His Father’s will whilst on earth. His death certainly was not faked. He did die on the cross, that is the whole point. Yes Yeshua was tempted, but never sinned. He was tempted in order to fully experience what humans experience, so that He could become our Great High Priest, yet He was without sin. Human beings are sinners, we are unable to fulfill God’s holy law (the 10 commandments). Only God Himself could fulfill His law, and that He did, when He came to earth. He lived a sinless life and this is why death could not hold Him. The “wages of sin is death” and because Yeshua had never sinned, He was raised from the death by the power of the Holy Spirit.

        Colossians 2:9 says “For in Christ dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily…”
        When Thomas saw Yeshua’s pierced hands and feet he cried out “My Lord and my God!” John 20:28

        Yeshua is the mediator of the New Covenant as you mention. It has to be Him that is the mediator. Why? Because He is the one who is both God and man. As God, He hears our prayers and takes them to the Father. As Man He represents us to God as our Great High Priest. No ordinary man could be mediator of the new covenant because we are all sinners. He is holy, so He can stand in our place before the Father. Yet He is man so He can identify with us in our weaknesses.
        Hebrews 4: 15: “For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin.”

        If Jesus was simply a man, or a prophet, then it would be wrong to worship Him. He is fully God, yet fully man. He had to become a man in order to take our place. He is our great substitution – praise Yeshua!

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  6. Where do you get it from that God is a tri-une Being?
    You agree Jeshua was tempted, but in case Jesus is God than he can not be tempted. Is that not a contradiction?
    You also agree that Jeshua really died, but God can not die, how can you explain that?

    How can Jeshua be a mediator between himself and man. There can only be mediated between two different parties by a third and other party. How can Jesus also be a High Priest for himself (when he is God Himself)?
    What would all the charade be useful for? God letting the peopel suffer such a long time before He took action, whilst He could have taken action straicght away in the Garden of Eden.
    Why did God also not tell always the Truth, because He said people would fall death if they saw Him. God also can do everything and knows everything, But Jesus said he could not do anything without his Father Who is higher than him (even the angels where higher than Jesus, though God is was and always shall be the Most High). Jesus told the apostles he did not know who was going to sit next to him in the Kingdom of God, which he was going to hand over again to his Father (how can he hand over something which belongs to him and give it to himself? Jesus claimed not to know when he would be coming back, and when he is God he then did not tell the truth, or would you not say he then told a lie?
    why did he do if he praid to the God of gods, when he himself was that person, and why did he ask why God had abandoned him when he himself would have been God? How can a person abandon himself?

    You are right in writing “If Jesus was simply a man, or a prophet, then it would be wrong to worship Him. ” We may only worship the One True God, the heavenly Father of Jeshua, the God of the son of man, the son of Adam, the son of Abraham, the prophet and master teacher Jesus Christ (Jeshua), the second Adam.

    Why would God have to take a place of man, Whom He created Himself? He just could have created another Adam straight ahead or destroyed straight ahead the bad men and women which came on His earth and defiled His creation.
    From your writing you give also the impression God could not create something decent, and no creations of Him could keep to His Law. Why then created He such things and why did He impose such a Law to which no human being could keep to?

    • Wow you’ve asked some very big questions, that are not quick to answer. I have answered each one below as best I can:

      Where do you get it from that God is a tri-une Being?

      Christ means “the anointed one” Luke 2:11 “For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord.” The Bible states, “and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

      The bible teaches that God is the creator- through the Son. Col 1:16-17 “For by Him (the Son) all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.” The Bible attributes creation to God, Isa. 42:5 “Thus says God the LORD, who created the heavens and stretched them out.”

      Heb.1:8 The Father speaking to the Son, “But to the Son he (the Father) says “Your throne ,O’ God is forever and ever.” V:10 The Father speaking of the Son, “And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning has laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of your hands…”If the Father says He (the Son) is God then one has an argument against God himself. “To God our Savior” (Jude 1:25).

      The Bible also tells us that He was pre-existent. John 1:2-3 “He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.” In Jn.17 he states Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.” Gen.1 tells us the first thing created was the heavens and the earth. So, if he had glory with the Father before the world was, He pre-existed as God — for only God existed at that time. The same argument can be used for all cults that deny the deity of Jesus Christ.
      (http://www.letusreason.org/Cults19.htm)

      The apostles regularly refer to the Godhead – ie, God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. See Ephesians 1, Colossians 1.
      “That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, concerning the Word of life – the life was manifested, and we have seen, and bear witness, and declare to you that eternal life which was with the Father and was manifested to us – that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ.” 1 John 1-3

      If Jesus wasn’t God in the flesh, then when Thomas cried out “My Lord and my God!” Jesus would have had to correct him. Jesus accepted worship, whereas angels do not.

      Jesus is “the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him al things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.” Colossians 1:15-17

      “For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily…” Colossians 2:9

      Psalm 110 shows the oath God the Father made to God the Son from eternity:
      “The LORD said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”
      2 …4 The LORD has sworn, And will not relent, You are a priest forever, According to the order of Melchizedek.”

      Additionally two Old Testament prophesies concerning Christ show His deity:
      Isaiah 7:14 “Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.” “Immanuel” means “God with us”

      Isaiah 9:6 “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”

      *Beware: every single “Christian” cult denies the deity of Jesus Christ.*

      You agree Jeshua was tempted, but in case Jesus is God than he can not be tempted. Is that not a contradiction?

      You are confusing temptation with sin. To be tempted to sin is not sin if you withstand and overcome the temptation. Jesus became human flesh as in John 1, and so is fully human, yet full God. As fully human He was subjected to temptations just as we are. The difference is of course, that He never succumbed to the temptation, but overcame because He is God.

      “For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.” Hebrews 4:15

      See also:
      “For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh,” Romans 8:3

      You also agree that Jeshua really died, but God can not die, how can you explain that?

      “Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.” Philippians 2:5-9

      Christ humbled Himself by becoming a man, when He was God “being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God”. He humbled Himself to the point of death, even the shameful, reproachful death of a cross, with criminals, although He never sinned.

      Why?

      “For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh,” Romans 8:3

      Romans 6:23 says that “the wages of sin is death” and because we are sinners the wages due to us is death. The fruit of a sinful life is death. “What fruit did you have then in the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death.”

      Romans 6:21
      Because we could not keep God’s holy Law (Ten Commandments) we were under the condemnation of death. (Read Romans 7)

      The Law brings us under condemnation. That is the whole purpose of the Law.

      “What purpose then does the law serve? It was added because of transgressions, till the Seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was appointed through angels by the hand of a mediator. …..Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.” Galations 3:19, 24

      Under the Law of God our eyes are opened and we see that we are sinners, whom are desperately in need of a Saviour.

      “Is the law then against the promises of God? Certainly not! For if there had been a law given which could have given life, truly righteousness would have been by the law. 22 But the Scripture has confined all under sin, that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law, kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed.” Galations 3:21-23

      What hope have we then if we are sinners, unable to keep God’s law?

      Romans 8:3 “For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin, He condemned sin in the flesh.”

      So the good news is that Jesus Christ came to earth as a man. He fulfilled God’s holy law perfectly, He never sinned, never broke one of the Ten Commandments. And because He came in the likeness of sinful human flesh, as a Man, He, by His sinless life, could condemn sin in the flesh. He HAD to come as a man so that sin in the flesh could be condemned by Him Thus when He died on the cross death could not hold Him, because the “wages of sin is death” and He never sinned.

      “…whom God raised up, having loosed the pains of death, because it was not possible that He should be held by it.” Acts 2:24

      Christ overcame sin, death, hell and Satan at the cross.

      9″ Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” Philippians 2:5-11

      *Beware: every “Christian” cult seeks to lessen the substitutionary atonement of Christ’s work on the cross.*

      How can Jeshua be a mediator between himself and man. There can only be mediated between two different parties by a third and other party. How can Jesus also be a High Priest for himself (when he is God Himself)

      At the cross, at the shedding of the divine blood, the New Covenant, or Testament, was instituted.

      “For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives. 18 Therefore not even the first covenant was dedicated without blood. 19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and goats, with water, scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book itself and all the people, 20 saying, “This is the blood of the covenant which God has commanded you.”[a] 21 Then likewise he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle and all the vessels of the ministry. 22 And according to the law almost all things are purified with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no remission.
      23 Therefore it was necessary that the copies of the things in the heavens should be purified with these, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24 For Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us; 25 not that He should offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood of another— 26 He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. 27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, 28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.” Hebrews 9:16-28

      Just as animal blood instituted the Old Covenant under the Law, so too blood instituted the New Covenant of grace. Whilst it was the blood of animals that had to be repeatedly offered under the Law, under grace it is different. Christ died ONCE for all sins. Just as the High Priest offered the blood of bulls in the Most Holy Place, so Christ offered His blood in the “greater and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands…not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption. For if the blood of bulls and goats and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkling the unclean, sanctifies for the purifying of the flesh, 14 how much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? 15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.” Hebrews 9:11-15

      Whilst Moses was the Mediator of the Old Covenant, Jesus Christ is the mediator of the New Covenant, the better covenant. Whilst Moses was simply a man, a human sinner, acting on behalf of the people, Christ Jesus is both God and Man and this is what makes Him able to be Mediator. As Man He stands before God on our behalf. As God He stands in our place before a holy God, because He Himself is holy. No man alone can stand before God on our behalf because all men are sinners. It is only the “God-Man” that fulfills both requirements. He is our Great High Priest, Our King, Our Saviour, Our Friend. It is truly wonderful. I encourage you to read all of Hebrews.

      What would all the charade be useful for? God letting the peopel suffer such a long time before He took action, whilst He could have taken action straicght away in the Garden of Eden.

      It is not a charade. When God created mankind He knew that we would sin and turn against Him in the garden of Eden, yet He still created us because He desired fellowship with us and He had a plan of redemption. Revelation 13:8 says that Jesus is the “Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” It was ALWAYS about Jesus, even from the foundation of the world.

      Psalm 2:7-9 shows us the counsel that was held in eternity between God the Father and God the Son:
      ““I will declare the decree:
      The LORD has said to Me,
      ‘You are My Son,
      Today I have begotten You.
      8 Ask of Me, and I will give You
      The nations for Your inheritance,
      And the ends of the earth for Your possession.
      9 You shall break[a] them with a rod of iron;
      You shall dash them to pieces like a potter’s vessel.’”

      God’s plan was always Jesus. And from the foundation of the world, this above oath/decree was made to the Son, by the Father.

      In fact Genesis 3 is the very first prophecy of Christ and His redemption. When God says to the serpent:
      “…and I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head and you shall bruise His heel.”
      this is God showing His plan of redemption was through Christ, as the SEed of a woman (thus in human flesh).

      Why did God also not tell always the Truth, because He said people would fall death if they saw Him. God also can do everything and knows everything, But Jesus said he could not do anything without his Father Who is higher than him (even the angels where higher than Jesus, though God is was and always shall be the Most High). Jesus told the apostles he did not know who was going to sit next to him in the Kingdom of God, which he was going to hand over again to his Father (how can he hand over something which belongs to him and give it to himself? Jesus claimed not to know when he would be coming back, and when he is God he then did not tell the truth, or would you not say he then told a lie?
      why did he do if he praid to the God of gods, when he himself was that person, and why did he ask why God had abandoned him when he himself would have been God? How can a person abandon himself?

      When Christ took on human flesh He willingly allowed His divinity to be concealed on earth. He willingly submitted Himself to the Father’s will, even though He was in all points equal to the Father. He humbled Himself by becoming a Man. He allowed Himself to, as a Man, become lower than the angels while He was on earth. However, this was temporary.

      “…His Son, whom he has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds, who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when he had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on High, having become so much better than the angels, as He has be inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For to which of the angels did he ever say:

      “Today you are My Son,
      Today I have begotten you”?
      I encourage you to read all of Hebrews 1.

      So we see from this passage that not only is Christ higher than the angels, but that through Him the world was made, that Christ is the brightness of God’s glory and the express image of Him and that through the word of His power He upholds everything.

      Jesus is God!!

      Why would God have to take a place of man, Whom He created Himself?

      I believe I have answered this question in my answers above.

      He just could have created another Adam straight ahead or destroyed straight ahead the bad men and women which came on His earth and defiled His creation.

      God did destroy all of the bad men and women in Genesis 7, in the flood. However, even after the flood people went their own way and sinned. God could destroy the whole world right now and re-create it but if He were to do that again He knows that we would all just keep on sinning. That is what free-will is. As humans He has given us two gifts: 1. The gift of life and 2. The gift of free will.
      We have our own will and we can choose whether to follow Him or to go our own way. God gave us freewill so that we would choose to follow Him out of love, not because we had no other choice.

      From your writing you give also the impression God could not create something decent, and no creations of Him could keep to His Law. Why then created He such things and why did He impose such a Law to which no human being could keep to?

      Everything that God created was good, as in Genesis 1. “Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good…”
      It was sin that corrupted mankind and the creation. That’s correct, no sinful human being can keep God’s holy law. That’s the whole point of God’s plan of redemption through His Son, Jesus Christ. Christ is the only human to keep God’s law. And the only reason he could keep God’s law is because He is God in the flesh. However when you put your faith in Jesus Christ and repent of your sins, then by His Holy Spirit He comes to dwell in you and live HIS life through YOU. Thus through Him living His life through us we are able to follow and keep God’s law. That is redemption.

      I hope this has answered your questions. God bless

      • You yourself do not give a real explanation how Jesus can be the Mediator of the New Covenant, which you call the better covenant. You think Moses because he was simply a man, a human sinner, acting on behalf of the people, could not be a Mediator, but that is in contradiction to the Old Testament and to the Greek writings too. You say yourself that it is Jesus “As Man He stands before God on our behalf. ” but than you continue to say “As God He stands in our place before a holy God,” without giving Sriptural proof of such position of Jesus or such a divine writing. Why can no man alone stand before God on our behalf? “Because all men are sinners” you say, but did not the previous high-priests where their on behalf of the population? Christ only did the Will of God and did not sin, therefore he as a holy man was sinless and the most appropriate to take this role of High Priest in the order of Melchizedek. Once more you want to give substance toyour saying, but start again from your dogmatic thinking that Jesus would be the only “God-Man”.

      • You say the faking of dying by God (in case Jesus is God) would not be a charade. You also give the impression God could not create beings which could follow His Way. You also say that when God created mankind He knew that we would sin and turn against Him in the garden of Eden. Then you continue to say “yet He still created us because He desired fellowship with us and He had a plan of redemption”. But when He had a plan of redemption already from before He had created the human beings, why on earth did He take so long before bringing such redemption and does He let people suffer still for such a long time,. Remember that after the third World War there shall still be an other 1000 years we shall have to live and not have all the pleasures infinitely at our doorstep for all human beings.
        .
        It was at the Garden of Eden, after the downfall of Adam and Eve that God provided His Plan for Salvation, but also gave the world to man, so that man could proof what they could do and that the accusation they brought against God could be proven wrong. Yes it is true that Jesus (and not Jehovah God) is the “Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.”Because this sin was done by the beginning of the world the promise of Salvation was about Jesus, from the foundation of the world. Jesus also was going to be the man who was to take care that there would come a new world and as such he also was the first-born of that world, which would be a world where the apostles would come into and all those who accept Jesus as their saviour.

  7. In case you consider a person with the name His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.” than we do have still a lot of Gods running around in this world, because it was in Jesus time as it was some decennia ago a very popular name, making that many of us have a brother called Emanuel or Immanuel. When that would be proof he is god, then many of us do have God as their brother.

    From your text you seem to forget that there are many gods or high persons. So for calling Jesus god does not mean that he is the God of gods. Pharao and Moses like many other figures are called god, but I do hope you do not take Zeus, Aphrodite, and the many others being called god to be the Most High Divine Creator?!

    Heb 1:8 The Scriptures 1998+ (8) But to the Son He says, “Your throne, O Elohim, is forever and ever, a sceptre of straightness is the sceptre of Your reign.

    Citing Psa_45:6-7. Psa_45:1-17 is an ode to the king, who is God’s appointed ruler. Jesus comes in the glory of the Father (Mat_16:27), and he sits on a throne appointed him by the Father (Psa_110:1), which therefore could be called God’s throne.

    Of course, this has always been true: the kings of Judah (like David, and Solomon) were also sitting on God’s throne, and in that capacity were acting as representatives of God Himself! So it would be no extraordinary matter, in this context, to speak of even mortal men as “God” — much less the true Son of God as such. Indeed, anyone who acts on behalf of God may be called “God”: (a) angels: Gen_16:13; Gen_18:13; Exo_23:20-21; Hos_12:3; Hos_12:5; (b) men: Exo_22:28; Exo_22:6; Exo_21:8 (“elohim”); Psa_138:1; Joh_10:34 (cited Psa_82:1; Psa_82:6).

    “The throne that will last for ever and ever and will be characterized by righteousness is the promised messianic kingdom with its eschatological overtones”

    Without the Most High God the divine Messiah would not be there for us. The Most High God is the One Who placed the Christos on this earth. Without this placement in the womb of the young girl there would be no saviour for us available. God is the Saviour Who provided the saviour Messiah, Jeshua, Jesus Christ. This Jesus di d not his own will but the will of his heavenly Father who is greater than Christ. Without god’s Power Jesus could do nothing. You too could be a saviour for some one, like there are daily in this world many people who save others, but because they are a saviour of that person this does not mean that they are god or The God.

    “Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father doing: for what things soever he doeth, these the Son also doeth in like manner.” (John 5:19 ASV)

    “Ye heard how I said to you, I go away, and I come unto you. If ye loved me, ye would have rejoiced, because I go unto the Father: for the Father is greater than I.” (John 14:28 ASV)

    “{1} My Father, who hath given [them] unto me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch {2} [them] out of the Father’s hand. {1) Some ancient authorities read [That which my Father hath given unto me] 2) Or, aught}” (John 10:29 ASV)

    “5 Have this mind in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 who, existing in the form of God, counted not the being on an equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a {1} servant, {2} being made in the likeness of men; {1) Gr [bondservant] 2) Gr [becoming in]} 8 and being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, becoming obedient [even] unto death, yea, the death of the cross.” (Philippians 2:5-8 ASV)

    “But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.” (1 Corinthians 11:3 ASV)

    “And when all things have been subjected unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subjected to him that did subject all things unto him, that God may be all in all.” (1 Corinthians 15:28 ASV)

    In case Jesus would be God why would he pray to himself and ask himself why He (God) would have abandoned him (Jesus)? Clearly the Scriptures indicate the position Jesus had, being lower than angels, though God is the Most High (was and shall ever be). How can a person be himself a priest or worshipper for himself and be a mediator between himself and others?
    When Jesus is God, according to you, how can this be in accordance with the Scriptures which say God cannot be seen by man or they would die, and God Himself is an eternal Spirit, Who has no beginning and no end and as such cannot be born and cannot die. Jesus was a man of flesh and blood, seen by many, who really died (he did not fake his death) and really was buried, taken out of the dead by his heavenly Father to come not to sit on god His throne but next to God.

    “But we behold him who hath been made {1} a little lower than the angels, [even] Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, that by the grace of God he should taste of death for every [man]. {1) Or [for a little while lower]}” (Hebrews 2:9 ASV)

    “Since then the children are sharers in {1} flesh and blood, he also himself in like manner partook of the same; that through death he {2} might bring to nought him that {3} had the power of death, that is, the devil; {1) Gr [blood and flesh]; Eph 6:12. 2) Or [may] 3) Or [hath]}” (Hebrews 2:14 ASV)

    “Wherefore it behooved him in all things to be made like unto his brethren, that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people.” (Hebrews 2:17 ASV)

    “but when the fulness of the time came, God sent forth his Son, born of a woman, born under the law,” (Galatians 4:4 ASV)

    “And they made his grave with the wicked, and with a rich man in his death; {1} although he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. {1) Or [because]}” (Isaiah 53:9 ASV)

    “17 And it came to pass on one of those days, that he was teaching; and there were Pharisees and doctors of the law sitting by, who were come out of every village of Galilee and Judaea and Jerusalem: and the power of the Lord was with him {1} to heal. {1) Gr [that he should heal]; Many ancient authorities read [that] he [should heal them]} 18 And behold, men bring on a bed a man that was palsied: and they sought to bring him in, and to lay him before him. 19 And not finding by what [way] they might bring him in because of the multitude, they went up to the housetop, and let him down through the tiles with his couch into the midst before Jesus. 20 And seeing their faith, he said, Man, thy sins are forgiven thee. 21 And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this that speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone? 22 But Jesus perceiving their {1} reasonings, answered and said unto them, {2} Why reason ye in your hearts? {1) Or [questionings] 2) Or [What]} 23 Which is easier, to say, Thy sins are forgiven thee; or to say, Arise and walk? 24 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath authority on earth to forgive sins (he said unto him that was palsied), I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy couch, and go unto thy house. 25 And immediately he rose up before them, and took up that whereon he lay, and departed to his house, glorifying God.” (Luke 5:17-25 ASV)

    “who is on the right hand of God, having gone into heaven; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.” (1 Peter 3:22 ASV)

    “20 which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and made him to sit at his right hand in the heavenly [places], 21 far above all rule, and authority, and power, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this {1} world, but also in that which is to come: {1) Or [age]} 22 and he put all things in subjection under his feet, and gave him to be head over all things to the church,” (Ephesians 1:20-22 ASV)

    “Wherefore also God highly exalted him, and gave unto him the name which is above every name;” (Philippians 2:9 ASV)

    “22 For neither doth the Father judge any man, but he hath given all judgment unto the Son; 23 that all may honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that honoreth not the Son honoreth not the Father that sent him.” (John 5:22-23 ASV)

    “Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of a heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, [even] Jesus;” (Hebrews 3:1 ASV)

    “So Christ also glorified not himself to be made a high priest, but he that spake unto him, {1} Thou art my Son, This day have I begotten thee: {1) Ps 2:7}” (Hebrews 5:5 ASV)

    “whither as a forerunner Jesus entered for us, having become a high priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.” (Hebrews 6:20 ASV)

    “nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place year by year with blood not his own;” (Hebrews 9:25 ASV)

    “For there is one God, one mediator also between God and men, [himself] man, Christ Jesus,” (1 Timothy 2:5 ASV)

    “But now hath he obtained a ministry the more excellent, by so much as he is also the mediator of a better covenant, which hath been enacted upon better promises.” (Hebrews 8:6 ASV)

    “and to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaketh better {1} than [that of] Abel. {1) Or [than Abel]}” (Hebrews 12:24 ASV)

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